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Model Rocketry Shops in Tucson

posted Dec 20, 2016, 8:55 PM by James Cramton

New rocketeers and parents of aspiring rocketeers often ask where to purchase model rocketry supplies and motors. There are several hobby and craft shops in town that sell rocketry supplies:

Hobbytown USA

Hobbytown USA is a hobby store specializing primarily in RC cars, planes, and helicopters, but they also stock a good supply of model rockets, motors, and supplies.

Hobby Barn

Hobby Barn stocks RC airplane, helicopter, and cars, as well as a model rockets and model rocket motors.

Hobby Place at Ace

Located adjacent to the Ace Hardware at 22nd and Kolb, Hobby Place stocks model trains, plastic models of all sorts, as well as RC aircraft and model rockets and motors.


Michel's is primarily a craft store, but they do have a model rocket section.

Preparing for Certification

posted Feb 7, 2016, 10:07 AM by Randall Shanyfelt   [ updated Feb 7, 2016, 12:14 PM by James Cramton ]

Preparing for Certification

As a Level 3 certification holder in both NAR and Prefect for Tripoli rocketry associations, I have witnessed quite a few Level 1 certification attempts.  The reason I say attempts is because there have been quite a lot of failures that would not have happened if the fliers had done the proper amount of homework, learning as much as they could about proper build techniques, stability issues, and safety.

Planning your build is the first big step.  Whether you chose to build a kit or scratch build your rocket, the same basic principles apply.  I always suggest that for a certification flight you keep it as simple as possible.  You can always try more complicated steps after you get your certification.  Motor eject, electronic eject or both at Apogee is a stronger bet than trying dual deployment or other more complicated methods.  I have had several people try for their certification using dual deploy, minimum diameter, GPS tracking, and as large an I motor as they can find.  Guess what, most of them failed.  A simple build with single deploy, minimal electronics or none and a small H motor in a medium size rocket with 3 or 4 fins and a nose cone will be successful most of the time.  Know the safety codes and stability factors, such as center of gravity compared with center of pressure and what factors affect this relationship.  You need to know the weight of your rocket compared to the amount of initial thrust of the motor you choose.  What is that limit?  I am not going to give you all the answers, that is part of doing your homework and being able to answer correctly when the person doing your certification asks.   If you don’t know the answers to these basic questions, you shouldn’t be allowed to fly.  Having a safe stable rocket is our main goal.

If you are building a cardboard tube rocket with wood centering rings and bulk heads, you need to have good tolerances where your couplers and nose cone are inserted into the airframe.  The reason for this is, if they are too loose, you might get drag separation when your motor burns out.  The momentum of the rocket will tend to want to have the heavier pieces of the rocket keep going up, such as the nose cone.  The pieces with more drag, such as the booster section with the fins, will tend to slow down faster.  This is drag separation, and it will cause your parachute to deploy early causing the shock cord to zipper the airframe.  If you get a big zipper, you will not pass your certification.  If you have the proper tolerances, you should be able to pick up your rocket by the nose cone and not have it separate.   You should be able to shake it a little and then have it separate.   You can adjust the fit by using a little masking tape, if it is too loose or sand the coupler a little, if it is too tight.  A little talcum powder at these separation points will help also.  If you have a fiberglass rocket or if your nose cone is heavy, you will want to use sheer pins at the separation points.  These are small nylon screws, usually #56, that are inserted thru holes in your airframe at the separation points.  Your black power charge(s) should have enough pressure to sheer these pins and cause separation.   It is important to know how much black powder to use, and the way you do that is to ground test your rocket.  You want to have enough pressure to separate your rocket, but not enough to blow it up.  There are websites that you can use to calculate the amount of powder so you have a safe amount to start with.

More and more kits that are being sold are made of fiberglass.  This presents some build issues that you don’t run into with cardboard and wood.   Epoxy will not stick to fiberglass unless it is roughed up first.  By this I mean get your 40 or 60 grit sandpaper and scratch the surface of the fiberglass anywhere there is a joint with fiberglass and epoxy.   If it is a thru the wall fin design, follow the manufacturer’s directions for gluing on the fins.  Most will suggest that you add filets where the fin root attaches to the motor tube.  This can be done either by drilling holes in your airframe and using a syringe to inject epoxy or leaving the aft centering ring off until you filet the fin roots to the motor tube.  Again, make sure you have a good bond on the bulkheads for the nose cone and booster sections.  These are where your eye bolts are attached for your shock cords.  There is a lot of tension on these during deployment.   A good way to add strength for these bulkheads is to recess them a little ways into the nose cone or booster section and glue in ¼ inch wide band of material above the bulk head.  Again, scratch, scratch, scratch the fiberglass.  Adding a little ground fiberglass powder to your epoxy with help to strengthen the bond.  You can get this at several rocket suppliers or composite suppliers.

One way that we can all learn, especially those that are going to try for their level 1, is to talk to other members about their rockets and what has worked for them and what has not.  I have personally learned a lot from talking to others and by observing how they do things. I have never run into anyone that wasn’t excited to show off what they have done and to share new ideas.  I know that it is a little intimidating to go up to someone you don’t know and ask for their help.  As part of the certification process, it is my responsibility to make sure the rocket is safe to fly and to make sure the flyer is aware of why he or she did certain things.  I can’t do the rocket setup myself, but I can observe, and if I know that, for instance, the way the parachute is packed, it probably won’t open, I can stop them from continuing.   In a case like that, I would demonstrate the proper way and then let them do it themselves.  It would have been better if they had asked a fellow flyer to show them so they could do it correctly the first time themselves.  If you are not sure, ask someone who knows, if you think the answer you get is not correct, ask someone else and have them explain it.

Part of launching a rocket with pretty good knowledge of what it is going to do is to run simulations.  There are several programs available for this.  Apogee rocketry sells one called RockSim.   Another program that is free is called Open Rocket.  There is a little bit of a learning curve with each of these, but the results are worth it.  How high will your rocket go, will it bust the waiver?  What is a waiver?  All of these things are the responsibility of the flier.  Know what factors affect how your rocket flies; wind, drag, shape of fins and nose cone, weight, etc., and what the affects will be.

This seems like a lot to learn for you Level 1 certification, but if you do it will be a safe and fun hobby.


Art Just

NAR level 3 Number 87145

Tripoli Prefect Level 3 Number 12693

Rocket Workshop Tour# 1

posted Feb 6, 2016, 3:25 PM by James Cramton   [ updated Feb 6, 2016, 9:18 PM ]

Our rocket workshops take many forms, subject to the needs of our work space, the type of projects we pursue, the time we have to work on our rockets, who shares our home, and all sorts of other factors--even what kind of pets we have!  I think it would be helpful from time to time to post articles here in our How To section that give us a look at different club members' rocket workshops. Few of us have the space to dedicate to our hobby the way we would like to do. I always like to pick up ideas from other modelers, and often, the work space they have carved out gives us ideas for how we can organize our own space. 

So I'll start out this mini-series in the How To section with a tour of my own work space, such as it is; it is shoehorned around kids' dress up and art supplies in the back of the TV room, but also hidden on shelves in the garage and in my closet. Like many Arizona homes, the lack of a basement puts a premium on storage space, and as you may have noticed, rockets can take up a lot of space! Yet I don't like to look at unfinished projects all the time, so I try to have a place set aside out of the way where I can leave projects to sit for a few days or weeks when I am busy on other things.

Primarily, I have a 6 foot by 2 foot folding table that I use for my low power projects--these days, mainly my competition models. Many of the boxes used in shipping rocketry supplies wind up being used as storage boxes for other supplies.
clear plastic hanging file bins work nicely to organize rocketry supplies
On shelves in the garage, I have a couple clear plastic hanging file tubs with various supplies in them. I have 8 or 10 in total, each storing items typically used together. Some hold small rockets ready for pre-flight check, while others hold small rockets in need of repair. One is 
dedicated to recovery supplies--parachutes, shock cords, streamers, etc. Another has nose cones and transitions.  Another fin material of various sorts and sizes.  Inside each bin, many items are stored in ziplock bags labeled clearly so I can grab just what I need easily. My kids are at an age where I like to be inside to keep an ear out during the time they may take to fall asleep, so I prefer to work inside. 
 The clear plastic sides on the tubs mean I can walk out to the garage and pick the bin or two that I need, and bring them inside to work for the evening. And the bins stack nicely so the bins can stay out from under foot.

An old shipping box with holes drilled in the top keeps small competition model rockets safe
A longstanding rule in our house is that model rockets are never left on the ground, where clumsy things like feet and dogs and other objects under the power of gravity tend to trample cardboard models. Delicate competition models proliferate, and I found a nice way to protect our competition models--punching holes in an old shipping box and storing models vertically under the table.  Also tucked under there are separate tackle boxes and toolboxes for supplies, adhesives, and tools. Depending on the launch, I may take some or all of these tackle boxes along for the day.

Body tubes and unbuilt models store nicely in an old cardboard box.
Cardboard body tubes and the ever growing collection of unbuilt models I picked up as a 'bargain' store nicely next to the table in an old shipping box with the top cut off. I tend to store tubes of the same size rubber banded together, although my coupler stock I use for making custom tubes I store nested inside themselves. A word of warning--floods can happen anywhere for the most ridiculous reasons, so always put cardboard boxes up on blocks off the floor; wood blocks or PVC pipe both work well. That laundry machine is half the house away, or that window never leaks, except when it does. You have been warned!

Maximizing storage using PVC rocket racks hung from the garage rafters
High power models are built and live mostly in the garage, which, due to the bake oven effect in a Tucson garage, means I only work out there in the cooler months or late at night, after the temperature drops below 100 degrees. And due to their size, storage of 4, 6, or 8 foot rockets is a challenge left to the garage rafters.  Nylon webbing works well for heavy rockets solo on a rafter, while lighter rockets can store more compactly in a padded PVC A frame hanging from 2 rafters.  Both configurations can be slung above head height.

Motor storage away from flame but right under foot
Due to the temperature fluctuations in a Tucson garage, rocket motors can't live in the garage. To store motors safely, they must be in a spark-proof container at least 25 feet from sources of open flame.  In our home, that translates to the space under my desk. Black powder motors I store and organize in plastic toolboxes, and I have a tackle box full of my reload casings, brushes, closures, and other reloadable motor 
I organize my rocket motor reloads in reused boxes and ziplock bags

High power motors, however, I store in a lockable steel trunk lined with plywood. I sort them into reused boxes or ziplock bags by manufacturer and diameter. Before each launch, I transfer the motors I may need to ammo boxes for transport.

Then there is the question of where to paint.  We are fortunate that we have largely undeveloped desert behind our house, with an easement between our house and the neighbors' yards.  this lends itself well to paining, which we accomplish with the  help of rebar pounded into the ground.  Most rockets get painted vertically with the rebar through the motor mount, although overturned cat litter buckets serve well to hold models horizontally if needed. All this done well away from pavement and any foot traffic.

rockets hidden in all available storage space
If I were able to change anything about my rocket shop, it would be to have a climate controlled space dedicated to rocketry close enough to the rest of the house that I can keep an eye on what's going on without having to set up and put away rocket projects regularly.  Having all the rocketry supplies, tools, and work space in one undisturbed area is a luxury I don't have right now, so I have to get creative with the storage of rocket supplies and completed models.  Thankfully, I'm married to a goddess of patience and tolerance, who doesn't seem to mind sharing closet space with a full rack of model rockets and the smell of spent rocket motors.  We should all be so lucky!  Thank you, Rachel!

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